26 May 2023
High up from their cloud, 5w4s are carefully watching us all. They notice every little detail and store it in their creative, powerful minds. Will they use it against us or create something utterly unique from all the facts and insights they pick up along the way? Are they scientists, artists, or a little bit of both?
It is not easy to understand this peculiar type, but it is rewarding on multiple levels. If you are curious to learn about all the dreams, fears, strengths, and weaknesses that 5w4s are made of, you are in the right place. Let’s uncover the secrets of the 5w4s’ fascinating character!
5w4s belong to one of the rarest Enneagram types. What makes them rare is the richness and depth of their inner worlds.
While Fives live in their heads, Fours follow the voice of their hearts. Fives are the cerebral type, curious and eager to understand how the world works. They collect facts and ideas and combine them into unique concepts.
Fours, on the other hand, want to explore their feelings, express them in a unique way, and get noticed for doing that.
When the objective, logical mind of Fives is influenced by the Fours’ emotional versatility, the result is a character who is even more capable of cracking the secrets of the universe. A 5 child might display this early on by showing a deep interest in both abstract ideas and creative outlets, blending logic with emotional insight from a young age.
A 5w4 has all the power of the Five’s scientific brain, but with the intuition of the Four wing, they understand the world even better, go beyond the mere facts, and pick up the missing puzzles faster.
Every Enneagram type is surrounded by two adjacent types called wings. If you scored the highest for the Five Enneagram type but also achieved a high score for the Four Enneagram type, it means you are a Five with a Four wing.
The Four wing will intensify the Five’s need for introspection and make them even more introverted. However, it will also enhance their connection with their feelings, allowing 5w4s to understand the role and importance of emotions. It’s like a scientist and an artist become friends in the minds of these types, gifting them with incredible intuition and wisdom.
When the heart and brain meet and work toward the same goal—which, in the case of 5w4s, is to understand the world—we can expect wonders. Still, the heart and brain do not always cooperate, which may create many inner conflicts for this type.
The Four wing not only intensifies the strengths of Fives but also adds a unique quality to them. For an Enneagram 5 female, the Four wing enhances both creativity and emotional depth.
Let’s see what the 5w4s’ most pronounced advantages are:
Though they share many traits, Fives and Fours are essentially very different. While Fives live in their heads, Fours live in their hearts, which is why it takes time for 5w4s to harmonize those two worlds into one.
Exactly this challenge is the source of some of this type's most prominent weaknesses, including:
The insatiable thirst for knowledge that dominates this type’s personality is, among other things, a reflection of their deep need to control life and predict the workings of the world. Generally speaking, this need is the key to understanding the 5w4’s deepest fears and desires.
There’s nothing easier for the 5w4 Enneagram type than to learn something new, just as there’s nothing that scares them more than not being able to understand something. To believe they are deserving, these people need to feel capable and helpful.
With this in mind, we can conclude that the 5w4s’ most pronounced fears include:
Considering how detached and reserved these types seem, it is hard to believe that they actually crave understanding, acceptance, and connection like all the other people. The difference is that they believe they deserve these only if they know enough, can solve every problem, or create something of unique value.
Therefore, their deepest desires are:
Both 5w4s and 5w6s are very delicate, specific types. And though both are still very much in their own heads, the biggest difference between them is that a 5w6 wants to be a part of a group and belong somewhere, while the 5w4 Enneagram type is willing to keep their independence at any cost.
Moreover, the Six wing makes Fives more practical, so these people are more grounded and better connected with reality than 5w4s. 5w6s will also be more interested in working within a company for a shared goal, while 5w4s are all about pursuing their own intuitive clues and artistic impulses.
Another significant difference between these types is in their attitude towards authorities. The Six wing makes Fives loyal and tones down their need for independence. This type loves sticking to the rules and following the guidelines of authorities, as it makes them feel safe. Meanwhile, a 5w4 does not even notice the rules or social cues; they follow their intuition and make their own rules along the way.
Knowledge makes 5w4 feel safe. The more insights they have about the world, the more in control of their lives they feel. Therefore, learning something new, acquiring a new skill, or understanding the world from yet another perspective is the most powerful source of motivation for this type.
Thanks to the Four wing, 5w4 will also enjoy spending time alone, indulging their sophisticated artistic cravings. They might use their alone time to make art, write a book, or just do something they enjoy. Along with valuing scientific, factual knowledge, they also profoundly appreciate art. By way of Four Wing, they are moved and inspired by stunning works of art.
The combination of delicate emotions, a hypervigilant nervous system, a powerful mind, and a gentle heart do not really make 5w4s social butterflies.
Having to deal with too many social events, invest their energy in small talk, and conform to social cues puts a huge strain on this type. They consider these activities shallow and useless, and these drain their energy quickly. Spending time with the one person who really gets them is all they need from their social life.
Since 5w4s’ sense of worth depends on the level of knowledge they acquire, they will also be very frustrated in all the situations when they can’t get to the bottom of something. They usually learn with ease, but when they don't, it is a catastrophe for them. Self-doubt takes the best of them, and they become anxious, jittery, and restless.
Another big source of stress for this type comes from not being able to express themselves freely and let their creativity flow. When they find themselves in settings that are too conservative or limiting, where they can’t contribute with their original thoughts and creative concepts, they become deeply deprived.
Withdrawal into their inner world is their natural reaction in such circumstances. However, if they stay withdrawn for too long, they may lose contact with reality and feel utterly lost and helpless, which is one of their worst fears.
A 5w4's ability to easily break down any concept and create a new one, combined with profound insight, distinguishes them in any business environment. They also have a strong vision, which is very important for managerial roles.
However, they lack the perseverance and motivation to adhere to corporate rules, so they will almost always choose the role of an expert or specialist or an outsourced consultant rather than be in a managerial position.
5w4s are among the most independent Enneagram types. They naturally take on roles as independent contractors, creatives, and consultants. That’s because they prefer to be free to plan their own time and resources however they want, without interference from higher-ups. For this reason, working autonomously is the best option for this inspired self-starter.
All this, of course, does not mean a 5w4 will not be a good team player. They are a precious part of any team as long as they have enough room to express their creativity. Though not chatty or especially kind, they are great, inspiring coworkers you can always rely on when you need a new perspective.
In addition to the skills they compulsively accumulate, the Philosopher of the Enneagram typically possesses a variety of natural talents. It is, therefore, easy to imagine that they have no trouble finding employment.
The best jobs for 5w4s are those that allow their creativity to flourish and stimulate their inquisitive minds, as they need constant intellectual challenges to stay interested. Therefore, some of the best career choices for them would be:
A good salary and office perks are not nearly enough to keep a 5w4 interested, as they are one of the least materialistic types. Any job that denies them the opportunity to use their intellectual abilities and creativity while imposing strict hierarchy and rules is a buzzkill for them.
Also, since they lack social skills, they will not feel good in jobs where communication is essential. For that reason, some of the worst career choices for 5w4s are:
Though they do enjoy being admired and appreciated, 5w4s are not really into fame. Still, the knowledge and skills they acquire through life, as well as the talents they usually have, often make them famous. Some of the most popular 5w4s include the following people:
And that’s a wrap! Now that you understand this curious Enneagram type better, let’s have a brief overview of their core traits before you go:
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